had 550,000 troops on the ground in
March 1991, when Desert Storm ended.
We do not have that size of force on the
ground in Iraq today—our maximum
during the surge was 160,000.
QBut we’ve heard that the drawdown in Iraq, combined with the surge in
Afghanistan, makes for the largest military movement since World War II?
ADr. Ash Carter, the undersecretary for acquisitions, logistics, and technology, remarked in a recent speech that
Desert Storm was like checking into a
hotel room and checking out. Iraq is like
living in a house for seven or eight years
and then leaving. We have built up a great
deal of infrastructure there, including
350 forward operating bases of varying
sizes that we were running [at the peak of
the surge]—the largest of which are the
size of cities.
QHow is the drawdown in Iraq going?
AObviously, Iraq is still constituting its government following the recent
elections, so we have what we call a waterfall, a gradual drawdown and then a
steeper drawdown until the August time
frame. By our metrics, we are ahead of
our schedule. We have gotten more
equipment, more people, and more containers out of the country than our metrics said we had to get out in order to
meet the August time frame. So overall,
given all the complexities, we are doing
extremely well in pulling out of Iraq.
QAt the same time that you’re over- seeing the drawdown in Iraq,
you’re building up in Afghanistan. How
does Afghanistan compare with Iraq?
AIt is an incredible challenge. Iraq has roads, paved roads. It has electricity.
Afghanistan has been completely war
torn for 40 years, and it shows. When the
wars in Afghanistan started in 1973,
Afghanistan was a Third World nation at
the lowest end of the Third World
nations. Infrastructure in Afghanistan is
almost non-existent.
QWhat do you mean by non-existent?
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AWell, let’s talk about roads. There are just a few major arteries around the
country. The rest are dirt roads, if you
want to call them roads. They are more
like yak paths.
QSo how does that compare with what you’veseen in Iraq?
AI flew in a helicopter for about an hour and a half from one base in
Afghanistan to another. During that time,
I probably saw five cars moving down
one of the main roads, and I saw no cars
out in front of farmhouses and houses
along that route. Now if you go to the Al
Anbar province in Iraq, you’re going to
see plenty of vehicles.
QOK, we understand that logistics are challenging in Afghanistan, but
we understand that getting there is a significant challenge as well.
AWhen moving to Afghanistan, you are either moving through what
used to be the Soviet Union to the north,
or the routes through Pakistan. Of
course, Pakistan has its own troubles, so
those routes are at risk even before you
cross into Afghanistan. To the west is
Iran, and that isn’t an option, for obvious
reasons.
QIs there anything that didn’t come up in the conversation that you’d
like to share with our readers?
AWe need to talk about contractors on the battlefield. We talked about
the supply, the industrial base that sustains our forces, but to support those
large bases in the field, we do have a large
contractor workforce deployed. A good
portion of those people engage in what
we would call logistics support in sustaining the base or in repairing equipment
that’s on the battlefield, or they might be
managing some of our supplies for us out
there on the battlefield.
That is one of the new realities—we
used contractors back in the
Revolutionary War, but it is more prevalent today. We could not do this without
the great support we have from the contractor community, our partners, and
transportation providers through some
third-party logistics service providers.
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